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How five daring women defied all odds and made aviation history.
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Do you think Raymond Orteig was liable for the injuries incurred by those who participated? Do you think this issue would have a different outcome today?

Created: 04/03/19

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davinamw

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Do you think Raymond Orteig was liable for the injuries incurred by those who participated? Do you think this issue would have a different outcome today?

Raymond Orteig, sponsor of the Orteig Prize, worried that his challenge was luring men to their deaths. Do you think he was liable for the injuries incurred by those who participated? Do you think this issue would have a different outcome today?


Posted Apr. 05, 2019 Go to Top | Go to bottom | link | alert
katherinep

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RE: Do you think Raymond Orteig was liable for the injuries incurred by those who participated? Do you think this issue would have a different outcome today?

Absolutely not. No one had to enter his challenge. He did not provide the planes or the mechanics to service them. These guys were chasing prize money in a field practically non-regulated. Who knew what needed to be done to these planes, they were themselves in many ways experimental. Today, it is different--we know the technology and there are all kinds of regulations and checks along the way. Today, there is no excuse for this Boeing fiasco that is happening.


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RuthEh

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RE: Do you think Raymond Orteig was liable for the injuries incurred by those who participated? Do you think this issue would have a different outcome today?

Orteig was only offering a monetary prize for anyone who could achieve what he thought was achievable. Yes, he did talk with the press and offered his condolences, but each pilot took the challenge at his own risk. Today, the lawyers would be all over this, with lawsuits. Or with waivers galore before the pilot ever left the ground. It all had to start somewhere and Orteig was trying to make it happen.


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dianaps

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RE: Do you think Raymond Orteig was liable for the injuries incurred by those who participated? Do you think this issue would have a different outcome today?

No and yes. Orteig was offering a prize for a contest. No one was forced to enter it. Today there are so many rules and regulations to everything we do that it would never have taken place.


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juliep

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RE: Do you think Raymond Orteig was liable for the injuries incurred by those who participated? Do you think this issue would have a different outcome today?

No, he wasn’t responsible. There just wasn’t enough known at that time about flying and the dangers associated with it. Even today we’re still discovering (after the fact, unfortunately) what can cause a plane to crash.


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JulieAB

Join Date: 07/16/13

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RE: Do you think Raymond Orteig was liable for the injuries incurred by those who participated? Do you think this issue would have a different outcome today?

No. The people participating knew the risks and joined anyway.


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alwaysdaddygirl

Join Date: 09/04/16

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RE: Do you think Raymond Orteig was liable for the injuries incurred by those who participated? Do you think this issue would have a different outcome today?

No. The people that participated know what risks they were taking. It would be different today for countless people (not everyone) who love to sue someone and not take any responsibilities for their own actions.


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