This month Jamie Malley of the Allen County Public Library in Scottsville,
Kentucky joins us to talk about the challenges and joys of running a
Please tell us a bit about your group.
We have about twenty on our list right now, mostly ladies in their 50's and
up (with probably 7 of those being retired teachers), plus two men - one is a
farmer/biologist in his sixties and the other is a retired gentleman in his
70's. We call ourselves Books on the Square because our library is on the town
square. It's a small town and we're proud of our square!
How would you describe the group's personality?
We like to have fun – our discussions are lively and funny. The group is mostly
ladies and sometimes it's surprising where our discussions take us. Those ladies
are a lot more rowdy than you'd think from looking at them!
When and how did the group get started?
Back in 1999, I talked to my director about starting a book club (the
library didn't have one up until that point) and she okayed it so I started
advertising – we're lucky to have a spot in our weekly newspaper for an article
covering library news, so I used that and also made flyers to hang up in the
library. We had six or seven people show up at the first meeting and maybe one
or two of those original members are still with us. But the members we have now
have almost all been with us for at least a few years. Some more like six or
How did these more recent members find you?
Sometimes we get new members from people in the library who, when they find
out about the book club, come and try it out and like it and stay. Sometimes
current members will bring a friend – and to tell you the truth, it seems like
those people are more likely to stay in the group. Maybe it's because they
already have a friend in the group when they first start coming. We do
have a slight turnover, not as much as I expected, but we'll get a new member
and they'll only come once or twice and then we never hear from them again. Like
I said, that hardly ever happens. We've got two ladies who've been coming for
almost a year and I still think of them as 'new' because the other members are
From an outsider's point of view it would seem that it might be more
difficult to build a cohesive group when you meet in a public place, do you
think this is the case?
No, our members are there because they really want to be. And they definitely
feel that this is THEIR club! They have a real feeling of ownership.
From left: Front row – Regina, Denny, Jamie Middle row (seated) – Janice, Shelia, Barbara, Sam
Back row (standing) – Gale, Hannah, Jane, Phyllis, JoAnne, Pam, Doris, Sue, Jeanne.
Tell us a bit about your meetings
Generally, everyone starts arriving 15 to 30 minutes before starting time
and the 'feeder' is there already serving so everyone gets something to eat and
drink. Then we all just mill around talking until time to start. The
'leader' gets everyone quieted down and usually tells a little about the author
and maybe some information pertaining to the author and the particular book
we're reading. All the 'leaders' have different styles – some just talk about
the book and characters and some have discussion questions.
We usually meet in the library but right now we're in a temporary location while
our library is renovated so we're meeting in the staff break room! But we'll
have a nice big room when the new library is finished.
We usually have people volunteer to be the 'leader' or 'feeder' for a particular
month. Sometimes the 'leader' will pick a month when we're reading a book they
have a particular tie to – maybe they suggested it or for whatever reason feel
they know more about the book or author. For instance, one of our ladies is an
email buddy with Silas House so last year when we read one of his books
she asked if she could lead the discussion.
We meet on the third Tuesday of every month. For the last five or six years, we
haven't had a book in December because everyone's busy with the holidays, but we
still meet. One of our members very graciously invites the entire book club to
her house on our regular meeting day. We each bring a dish and enjoy an elegant
meal and we each bring a bookmark for a gift. In between, we mainly
communicate by email but we do have a calling list as well.
How do you go about selecting books to read and, presumably, finding enough
copies in the library for everyone to read?
Our members all give me a list of books they'd like to have chosen for the next
year and I make up an annotated list and then they vote. I count the votes and
the book that got the most votes is the next one we read and they go on down the
list from there. When we first started the group we had a few who liked to buy
the book each time but for the most part, they've stopped that now. Our
Interlibrary Loan librarian borrows as many copies as she can from other
libraries and then our book club members share them; and if it's absolutely
necessary, we'll purchase a few extra copies. Our state library recently made
available book club kits with several copies of a book plus a large print and an
audio – so we'll be using that service in 2008 for a few of our selections.
Do you think it's possible to have a "one size fits all" book club for such a
diverse group as library patrons? Is there a particular group that you
hoped to attract to the book club?
Most of our club members agree that the whole point of being in a book club is
so that you'll read some things that you maybe wouldn't read on your own. So I
think the diversity that comes from lots of people choosing the books is a good
thing. The only type we've ever tried to attract is the type who likes to
Do you have plans to start any more library book clubs?
At the moment we have just the one book club. We've offered a men only book
club because it seems most men who want to be in our club end up saying we read
too many 'chick books', but we only had a couple of guys come to the men's club
so it disbanded. At some point after we move to the new library I'll probably
try a teen book club and maybe a certain genre group – like just mysteries or
What's your favorite thing about belonging to/running the book club?
My favorite thing is the opportunity to talk to other readers in depth about
what they like or dislike about certain books and about what an author might
mean in a particular book. So just getting an explanation or maybe validation
You're job title is Community Relations, what does that entail?
When my job title was given, I was writing our weekly newspaper article, going
out to groups like Rotary and other community groups, and doing public relations
for the library. My job has evolved over the years and the title never changed.
What I do now is actually mostly teen oriented. I create teen programming
through the year and for summer reading: I run our library Myspace page and
order teen books. I also work the front desk and fill in with children's
programs. Anything that requires 'getting up in front of people' usually falls
to me since I'm the only one here (with the exception of our director) who isn't
afraid of public speaking.
Are you also involved with "Friends of the Library"? Is there an
overlap between the two groups?
Yes, I'm also the liaison for our Friends group. There is a huge overlap. Almost
everyone in the book club is also a Friend – but we have lots of Friends who
aren't book club members.
Although not strictly relevant to our discussion about book clubs, I'm
fascinated to know what percentage of your patrons you would say are "heavy
users" of the library? I imagine it's the 80:20 rule with 20% of the
patrons accounting for 80% of the book loans/activity within the library?
That sounds about right. We see lots of faces every day but it does seem that a
big percentage of those faces are the same ones over and over again.
Tell us about the sort of books your club reads.
We try to pick at least one biography and two non-fiction books a year. We
try to keep away from religion and politics, because they tend to lead more to
arguments than discussions. Usually controversial subjects make for good
discussion. Also, characters who make unusual choices – then we can argue about
the 'right or wrong' choice.
Could you tell us a few of the books that have generated the most interesting discussions.
Back in 2002 we read
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone because several of our
members were upset about what they thought it contained. The discussion
was really good because reading the book totally changed what many of
them thought about the series.
The Awakening by Kate Chopin was a lively discussion because it was full of
controversial subjects like sexual preferences, suicide, and women's
rights. The Rosewood Casket by Sharyn McCrumb was a good choice for us because of all the
Appalachian legend and lore. We're located I guess you could say in the
"foothills of the foothills" of the Appalachians, and the members of our
group are interested in the heritage aspect of 'local' literature.
We had the author visit when we discussed The Illuminator by Brenda Vantrease
so that made for a more interesting discussion than usual; and
The Kite Runner by Khaled Hosseini was a timely book for our group and helped us understand
more about the Middle East.
Are there any books that bombed? If so, why do you think they did?
Popular books that are just fun to read usually don't make good discussion books
because everybody pretty much just says, "Yeah, I liked it", "Yeah, it was
That's something we've heard from many book groups - it's really important to
pick books that have some 'meat' to them!
After 8 years reading together, you must have covered a lot of ground. Do you
feel that your discussions have developed over time?
Yes, at the beginning, we didn't really know what we were supposed to be
discussing so the discussions were mostly about how we felt about the story. We
still talk a lot about how we feel about the stories, but we also talk about the
writing more, about the technical side of the writing.
I've found that some groups who've met for a long time sometimes start mixing
things up a bit with regard to what they read discuss – e.g. each reading a book
by a particular author and discussing the author him/herself as opposed to a
specific book; or reading through all the works by a particular author, or
reading on a particular theme for a period of time. Have you tried anything like
So far we haven't done anything like that but now that you've suggested it
we probably will! One thing we have done is watched a movie and read the book
and then compared the two.
Have you organized any special events together?
We used to have a man in our club who is a playwright (he moved to Texas so
we don't get to chat with him anymore, unfortunately), but he wrote a play that
was presented at Horse Cave Theatre, in Horse Cave, KY and our group went to see
We've had Brenda Vantrease who wrote The Illuminator at our
discussion of that book, and we plan to read her second book, The Mercy
Seller, in 2008 and she's agreed to come to that discussion as well.
Several of our members attended an author visit at Barnes & Noble in Bowling
Green when Sharyn McCrumb was there and the same with Silas House.
Every December we meet at one of our book club members' house for a Christmas
What would you say would be the ideal book club?
I think our book club is just right.
Is there anything you'd do differently if you were to set up from scratch
The only thing I might change is that it might be better to meet in the evening
because we meet at 1:00 pm and there are lots of people who might like to join
our club but can't because they work. Our time slot probably has a lot to do
with our group being mostly retired ladies, too.
Any learning lessons to pass on to others?
Just to make sure that you can get enough copies of a particular book. It's
usually a good idea to choose something that's been out for a while, especially
if you have to buy copies, then you can get paperbacks.
Issues that seem fraught with peril for our group are religion, politics, and
Having members of the group take turns being leader really makes them see what
it's like, and that helps them to have some respect when someone else is leading
the group. It's easy to sit back and say how much better it could be when you've
never done it. But our group is really good about not criticizing and with
helping each other out.
Having a call list or email list is a very good idea so that we can communicate
with each other between meetings.
Thank you very much Jamie, we wish you and Books on the Square many more
happy years reading together.