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When Danielle decided she needed a loan to start her business, she was discriminated against because of her gender. In what ways does gender-bias still exist?

Created: 04/27/15

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davinamw

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In what ways does gender-bias still exist?

When Danielle decided she needed a loan to start her business, she was discriminated against because of her gender. In what ways does gender-bias still exist?


Posted Apr. 29, 2015 Go to Top | Go to bottom | link | alert
mal

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RE: When Danielle decided she needed a loan to start her business, she was discriminated against because of her gender. In what ways does gender-bias still exist?

Salary women are notorious compensated lower than males. Particular positions might pose more challenging depending on your sex. Stereotypes and sexism exist, some blatant some hidden. Equality for all!


Posted May. 04, 2015 Go to Top | Go to bottom | link | alert
barbarak

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RE: When Danielle decided she needed a loan to start her business, she was discriminated against because of her gender. In what ways does gender-bias still exist?

Laws are better today but women had it tough even in the 1960's, & 1970's. A woman in the 1940's must have had it near impossible to get a loan.


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kellilee

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RE: When Danielle decided she needed a loan to start her business, she was discriminated against because of her gender. In what ways does gender-bias still exist?

I think women during World War II had an amazing level of freedom and opportunity compared to the 1950s and 1960s when soldiers returned from war and "family values" and traditional family roles were reinstituted. Although Danielle had that instance of discrimination by the bank, she was actually able to accomplish an amazing amount without gender-bias possibly due to the role reversals that came naturally with World War II when women were left behind to do so much.


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rebeccar

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RE: When Danielle decided she needed a loan to start her business, she was discriminated against because of her gender. In what ways does gender-bias still exist?

Gender bias is sill evident in the USA and around the world. Look at how many articles sill mention: so-and-so is the first woman to hold this position. In many large corporations, IF a woman is in an executive position, it is often for departments that are considered somewhat less essential - Human Resources instead of Marketing, Operations, Finance, etc. People still act surprised if a woman uses her maiden name if she is married.


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rivkahh

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RE: When Danielle decided she needed a loan to start her business, she was discriminated against because of her gender. In what ways does gender-bias still exist?

It certainly still exists in our culture in terms of salary, etc. as mentioned. It exists to a much greater degree in some other cultures in the world, where women still have virtually no freedom or value whatsoever. I think there is still somewhat of a double standard here in regard to sexuality (HE's "a ladies' man" but SHE's a slut) and leadership qualities (HE's a forceful leader; SHE's a bitch).


Posted May. 09, 2015 Go to Top | Go to bottom | link | alert
davinamw

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RE: When Danielle decided she needed a loan to start her business, she was discriminated against because of her gender. In what ways does gender-bias still exist?

In response to rivkahh's comment - I've heard my 19-year-old daughter and friends refer to males their age as sluts, so maybe we're entering a new age of equality. On balance I'd rather they didn't refer to anyone in that way but if they must, at least they can be equal about it!


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nancyh

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RE: When Danielle decided she needed a loan to start her business, she was discriminated against because of her gender. In what ways does gender-bias still exist?

I think things are in a much better position than they were when I was young. Once I married, I could not have a credit card in my name. It had to go though my husband. Since I handled the finances, I thought this was very unfair. I do have credit cards now and my own credit rating. When I was young there was no way a woman could own a house because she couldn't make enough money. This has also improved, however, because their incomes are generally not as high as men's, they are still limited. Although there is a lot of improvement, we still have a ways to go


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bettyt

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RE: When Danielle decided she needed a loan to start her business, she was discriminated against because of her gender. In what ways does gender-bias still exist?

I retired at the end of 2011 from a male-dominated field. I frequently found that my opinions were ignored in meetings here in the USA and in Europe. Surprisingly. only in the Middle East and the Asia-Pacific were my opinions as valued as those of the men.


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jeannew

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RE: When Danielle decided she needed a loan to start her business, she was discriminated against because of her gender. In what ways does gender-bias still exist?

BettyT: I'm sure I'm stereotyping, but it seems surprising that you would have been listened to in the Middle East and Asia. Media reports certainly aren't encouraging about the treatment of women in those areas. I'm curious: why do you think men listened to you in those areas of the world?


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Peggy H

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RE: When Danielle decided she needed a loan to start her business, she was discriminated against because of her gender. In what ways does gender-bias still exist?

She was probably turned down because of her background. I wonder if this would be different today and feel that things have not completely changed. I also think she needed money quickly. The time frame of the story is very short and a little hard to believe that so much was accomplished in such a short span of time.


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kathleenb

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RE: When Danielle decided she needed a loan to start her business, she was discriminated against because of her gender. In what ways does gender-bias still exist?

Things have definitely improved since the 1970's. I went into a car dealership to buy a car after my previously used car was totaled. The sales rep just laughed at me and wouldn't help me. It was my first new car purchase. I made enough money and was in much better financial straights than my ex-husband for his new car purchase and they rolled out the carpet for him. I was able to go across the street and get a Chevy though. I still see discrimination the woman being called girls at work. Countless examples of men being paid more than women still come out. It is much, much better and the glass ceiling has broken. but there is room for improvement.


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