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What do we know about Sally and Patrick's married life? What strengths and faults have each of them brought to the marriage?

Created: 09/01/18

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davinamw

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What do we know about Sally and Patrick's married life? What strengths and faults have each of them brought to the marriage?

What do we know about Sally and Patrick's married life? What strengths and faults have each of them brought to the marriage?


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AmberH

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RE: What do we know about Sally and Patrick's married life? What strengths and faults have each of them brought to the marriage?

We didn't learn much about their married life! I wish this book was longer - written as more of a family saga of these characters. Or perhaps has follow-on books. There is a lot of potential here to tell more stories and delve deeper into Annie and Sally.


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susiej

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RE: What do we know about Sally and Patrick's married life? What strengths and faults have each of them brought to the marriage?

If I put these stories all together in the correct order, we don't know a lot about their married life, but we do know that Patrick loved Sally and we learn at the very beginning - when both children are out in the buggies for a walk with their mother's, Patrick sits upright, holds on tight, and tells us then that Sally is the girl he will marry. Patrick was determined; he also was patient. He waited for her and cared for her after marrying her through her bouts of depression. But truly there isn't a lot we know because as we are told on the very last page of the book, "We marveled to think of it: how much went unspoken in those days."


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reene

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RE: What do we know about Sally and Patrick's married life? What strengths and faults have each of them brought to the marriage?

We really know very little of their married life. We do know more about each of their personalities. Patrick apparently was the smarter brother, but was kind and perhaps a bit superstitious and fearful after that trip to his grandfather's funeral. Sally suffered from depression, and I'm afraid guilt (even though she should not), my feelings after reading and rereading "Still" and the last pages. She was an excellent big sister, but took on too much responsibility for her mother's actions. I am sure she suffered more than just depression, but it would hardly be spoken of.


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jww

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RE: What do we know about Sally and Patrick's married life? What strengths and faults have each of them brought to the marriage?

About the only thing we know of their marriage is that Patrick was very patient and understanding. He fell in love with Sally as a child and kept his feelings for her throughout. Sally inherited her father's depression and spent much time suffering from it. In spite of that, her children (the little we know of them) seem to be well adjusted.


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scgirl

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RE: What do we know about Sally and Patrick's married life? What strengths and faults have each of them brought to the marriage?

"We marveled to think of it: how much went unspoken in those days." Family history is a mystery. Unfortunately we don't know a whole lot about Patrick and Sally's marriage. We do know that she suffered periods of depression, similar to her father, it would seem. We also know that Patrick loved her from the first time he saw her when they were children. I do wish this part of the story had been fleshed out a little more because I cared about the characters and hoped that Patrick and Sally found happiness together.


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paulagb

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RE: What do we know about Sally and Patrick's married life? What strengths and faults have each of them brought to the marriage?

As stated above we know very a little about Patrick and Sally’s marriage, but a fair amount about the individuals, especially Annie. Patrick seems more stable and the base upon which the marriage must stand. Sallly does not appear to be a depressive personality until after her marriage.


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celiaarnaud

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RE: What do we know about Sally and Patrick's married life? What strengths and faults have each of them brought to the marriage?

I didn't feel like I knew much about Patrick and Sally's married life at all. To be honest, I felt I hardly knew Patrick at all. There was the interesting bit about him knowing as a child that he was going to marry Sally. Sally was a much more fully realized character in my mind. He seemed almost like a shadow next to her.


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sandra54

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RE: What do we know about Sally and Patrick's married life? What strengths and faults have each of them brought to the marriage?

I would have liked to know more about Patrick. Not as much was talked about in marriages. I too wish the book was longer.


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