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What are the consequences of Agnes's encouraging her husband to go to London? Do you think she still regrets the decision at the end of the book as she is watching Hamlet onstage?

Created: 06/16/22

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davinamw

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What are the consequences of Agnes's encouraging her husband to go to London? Do you think she still regrets the decision at the end of the book as she is watching Hamlet onstage?

What are the consequences of Agnes's encouraging her husband to go to London? Do you think she still regrets the decision at the end of the book as she is watching Hamlet onstage?


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RuthEh

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RE: What are the consequences of Agnes&#...

I was not surprised when Agnes told her husband to go to London. His relationship with his Father was bad and Agnes knew he would never take over the family business. Agnes also knew he did not want to be a farmer, he just didn't have the aptitude for that. Agnes basically sent him away to realize his dream. She loves him and wants him to be happy. No, I don't believe Agnes regrets sending him to London, However, she is not happy about his extracurricular activities!


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jos

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RE: What are the consequences of Agnes&#...

Well the obvious consequence was her husband not spending time with his children, especially Hamnet before he died. It profoundly affected him as per his play. I don’t think she regretted sending him though, fate is not predictable, and her uncanny insight did not help her avoid it. Her husband was miserable under the thumb of his father and his son would have most likely perished even if he hadn’t gone to London. His new profession definitely gave him a health way to grieve and honor his son which I believe his wife came to understand when she saw the play.


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Maggie

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RE: What are the consequences of Agnes&#...

Agnes knew her husband was not happy, he was very depressed. Even though she would miss him, and because she loved him, she devised the plan for him to take his father’s business to London. She knew better opportunities would be in his future. It was devastating that he did not know Hamnet was now sick and that he was not home when Hamnet died. We find out later that he was not comfortable coming home after Hamnet was gone. Both parents kept looking for him! Once Agnes came to London, and saw his room, and how meagerly he lived, and watched him on stage I believe she knew she had done the right thing by letting him leave.


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katherinep

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RE: What are the consequences of Agnes&#...

I don't think she had any idea of the extent his move to London would remove him from her and the children. Initially, his visits home were fairly regular and their reunions loving and welcome. As time went on he got busier and busier and more involved with what he perceived as his responsibilities to his casts and writing. Hamnet's death began the change in the marriage--her resentment surfaces when he tries to reassure her that she did all she could for Hamnet. Her saying ' you weren't here!:' was a alarm bell for me. Then she realizes there have been other women and it hurts to think he sought solace away from her. Did she still love him, obviously, but less strongly, I think. Still he wanted her to move to London with him and she chose not to go--perhaps, it was the best decision but I don't think it was wise. He set her and the girls up in a beautiful house where she wanted to live, but that had to have cut another cord. Their shared grief for Hamnet would hold them together but in a marriage in which the parties live seperate lives.


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joanw

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RE: What are the consequences of Agnes&#...

I believe Agnes and Will were totally in love with one another. And because of that love, she is the one who devised the method of him leaving and going to Straford. His father was a horrible father and they never did nor were they ever get along. I feel that when she went to Stratford and saw the way Will lived - in just austere conditions- and saw the play, they came to another understanding of their love and their love for their son.


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emelied

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RE: What are the consequences of Agnes&#...

I think she knew this is what he needed. She, and he too, might have been lonely, but both had a deep understanding of what was best for both of them. I think there is always a second guessing once we make a big decision and don't really know the outcome until it happens. With the way the novel ended, I think Agnes was very happy with her decisions, because she realizes their actions together helped the grieving process.


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dorinned

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RE: What are the consequences of Agnes&#...

It must have been very difficult for Agnes to have her husband gone most of the time, especially with the task of raising their children left entirely in her hands. I truly loved the ending of the book when Agnes finally saw the play "Hamlet" and realized that Shakespeare had poured all his love for his son into the writing and performing of the play.


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BuffaloGirl

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RE: What are the consequences of Agnes&#...

Although having no formal education and unable to read and write, Agnes was extremely emotionally smart as well as intelligent with regard to the world she lived in. She knew that her husband would not survive emotionally and perhaps physically if he remained in Stratford. It seemed to me that she initially believed that she and the children would follow him to London at some point in the near future. When this did not come to pass, she made the best of the situation, although she was human and had periods of understandable resentment. When she went to London, she appeared to be "at the end of her rope" yet hoped that by seeing her husband, she could understand him. The last scene in which she watches the play, initially with consternation and then with realization of Shakespeare's love for his son is one of the most moving in literature, in my opinion.


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arlenei

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RE: What are the consequences of Agnes&#...

Agnes sees her husband’s torment. He can never follow in his fathers footsteps. Even though her children would grow up without him, she allows and encourages him to go to London. He thrives in London a through his grief, his creative skills flourish.
I’m not sure Agnes regrets her husband going to London, she loves him, she sees how much he has succeeded. She also recognizes his grief which funnels just creativity.


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vickic

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RE: What are the consequences of Agnes&#...

Agnes seems to have recognized her husband's need to be in London where he would be able to do that which he wanted to do. She was able to understand that without his writing and production of his plays that he would also be unhappy, in spite of his love for her. Yes, I do think she regretted it at times, especially after Hamnet's death when she so needed him to be with her during their grieving. When she saw the play, I think she finally understood that the level of his grief was immense and saw the play as a remarkable tribute to their son.


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terriej

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RE: What are the consequences of Agnes&#...

Agnes knew her husband needed a change to overcome his depression. The consequence she faced was less time with him while raising his children. I think she understood him at the end when she saw the play. She finally realized how deep his grief was.


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Auntie Mame

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RE: What are the consequences of Agnes&#...

I think she was surprised when she saw the play. Being in the audience and seeing how other people reacted to it, as well as her own reaction made her realize that she had made the right decision.


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